<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Finance and Freedom: Freedom of Religion</title> <atom:link href="http://www.rocketfinance.net/2008/11/21/finance-and-freedom-freedom-of-religion/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.rocketfinance.net/2008/11/21/finance-and-freedom-freedom-of-religion/</link> <description>Finance is not rocket science, unless it is government finance.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 22:48:26 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Freedom and Finance: Healthcare &#124; rocket finance</title><link>http://www.rocketfinance.net/2008/11/21/finance-and-freedom-freedom-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-20975</link> <dc:creator>Freedom and Finance: Healthcare &#124; rocket finance</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.rocketfinance.net/?p=425#comment-20975</guid> <description>[...] Freedom and Finance: Religion [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Freedom and Finance: Religion [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rocketc</title><link>http://www.rocketfinance.net/2008/11/21/finance-and-freedom-freedom-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-19075</link> <dc:creator>rocketc</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:50:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.rocketfinance.net/?p=425#comment-19075</guid> <description>I believe, constitutionally speaking, that the framers would view granting &quot;tax-exempt status&quot; to churches to be as unconstitutional as restricting the rights of those churches to speak out in support of a particular political candidate. They are both violations of the constitution, strictly speaking.Your last question is interesting.I think my overall point, and maybe I did not state this well enough, is that tax-exempt status sounds like a good thing and many people who support non-profits welcomed that aspect of tax law. In gaining a monetary benefit, they and we as Americans allowed the government to restrict our freedom of speech. It is incremental, but this freedom is being slowly abridged. There are many politicians who benefit from the polical silence of non-profits. Futhermore, the non-profit status has even been used in court to threaten certain institutions who hold views that the political estabishment finds threatening.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe, constitutionally speaking, that the framers would view granting &#8220;tax-exempt status&#8221; to churches to be as unconstitutional as restricting the rights of those churches to speak out in support of a particular political candidate. They are both violations of the constitution, strictly speaking.</p><p>Your last question is interesting.</p><p>I think my overall point, and maybe I did not state this well enough, is that tax-exempt status sounds like a good thing and many people who support non-profits welcomed that aspect of tax law. In gaining a monetary benefit, they and we as Americans allowed the government to restrict our freedom of speech. It is incremental, but this freedom is being slowly abridged. There are many politicians who benefit from the polical silence of non-profits. Futhermore, the non-profit status has even been used in court to threaten certain institutions who hold views that the political estabishment finds threatening.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: My Journey</title><link>http://www.rocketfinance.net/2008/11/21/finance-and-freedom-freedom-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-19070</link> <dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:43:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.rocketfinance.net/?p=425#comment-19070</guid> <description>Believe it or not, I actually agree with underlying wants, mainly, (a) lower taxes and (b) free speech (which I believe we currently have especially when compared to most other countries.I think my issue, is you using the word unconstitutional.  The statement:&quot;just because the government decided to give tax breaks to non-profits, it does not give government the right to then restrict their freedom of speech.&quot;IS WRONG UNDER CURRENT LAW - Unless, what you are trying to do is portray YOUR OPINION.  If that is the case, so be it, but you should say it clearer.If a church wants to promote a candidate then all they have to do is pay their taxes?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, I actually agree with underlying wants, mainly, (a) lower taxes and (b) free speech (which I believe we currently have especially when compared to most other countries.</p><p>I think my issue, is you using the word unconstitutional.  The statement:</p><p>&#8220;just because the government decided to give tax breaks to non-profits, it does not give government the right to then restrict their freedom of speech.&#8221;</p><p>IS WRONG UNDER CURRENT LAW &#8211; Unless, what you are trying to do is portray YOUR OPINION.  If that is the case, so be it, but you should say it clearer.</p><p>If a church wants to promote a candidate then all they have to do is pay their taxes?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rocketc</title><link>http://www.rocketfinance.net/2008/11/21/finance-and-freedom-freedom-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-19063</link> <dc:creator>rocketc</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:30:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.rocketfinance.net/?p=425#comment-19063</guid> <description>Theoretically, I believe that the government should give no tax breaks to religious organizations or really any deductions at all. However, corollary to that belief is that our taxes should be very low, not progressive, and that payroll taxes are illegal . . .My point is this: just because the government decided to give tax breaks to non-profits, it does not give government the right to then restrict their freedom of speech. And I define the freedom of speech relatively narrowly as most of the founding fathers: the right to free speech is the right to free political speech.We have too many deductions and targeted tax breaks in our tax code . . . most are not constitutional . . . but that is a whole &#039;nother topic.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoretically, I believe that the government should give no tax breaks to religious organizations or really any deductions at all. However, corollary to that belief is that our taxes should be very low, not progressive, and that payroll taxes are illegal . . .</p><p>My point is this: just because the government decided to give tax breaks to non-profits, it does not give government the right to then restrict their freedom of speech. And I define the freedom of speech relatively narrowly as most of the founding fathers: the right to free speech is the right to free political speech.</p><p>We have too many deductions and targeted tax breaks in our tax code . . . most are not constitutional . . . but that is a whole &#8216;nother topic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: My Journey</title><link>http://www.rocketfinance.net/2008/11/21/finance-and-freedom-freedom-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-19059</link> <dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:06:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.rocketfinance.net/?p=425#comment-19059</guid> <description>Rocket,&quot;Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man &amp; his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state&quot;Thomas Jefferson 1802Can&#039;t it be argued that giving a tax preferred status to only CERTAIN religions (i.e. The IRS would have a problem with The Church of My Journey to Millions) orginiziations is actually supporting a religion?Before you attack me, I am actually NOT a liberal at all, and in fact, got into many a fights in my Constitutional Law Class during Law school with people about how conservative I really am.  I just don&#039;t think this issue is black and white.I am far from a Con Law Professor, but there is no speech that is &quot;always be protected by law&quot; but rather varying degrees of protection.  Yes, Political is VERY VERY HIGH on the list of protected speech, but is BY NO MEANS always protected.I am not sure where it is, but there is some sort of line where you should study con law before proclaiming it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocket,</p><p>&#8220;Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man &amp; his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state&#8221;</p><p>Thomas Jefferson 1802</p><p>Can&#8217;t it be argued that giving a tax preferred status to only CERTAIN religions (i.e. The IRS would have a problem with The Church of My Journey to Millions) orginiziations is actually supporting a religion?</p><p>Before you attack me, I am actually NOT a liberal at all, and in fact, got into many a fights in my Constitutional Law Class during Law school with people about how conservative I really am.  I just don&#8217;t think this issue is black and white.</p><p>I am far from a Con Law Professor, but there is no speech that is &#8220;always be protected by law&#8221; but rather varying degrees of protection.  Yes, Political is VERY VERY HIGH on the list of protected speech, but is BY NO MEANS always protected.</p><p>I am not sure where it is, but there is some sort of line where you should study con law before proclaiming it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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